|
|
Post by mtmxfam on Aug 30, 2012 18:53:04 GMT -5
The HCMA has decided not trophy any of the 50 aircooled b class because NONE of the kids made 6 races. How can you secure the future of this organization and the future of Montana Motocross when doing this? Even though no kid made 6 races there were plenty that made 5, and 60% of 9 races is 5.4. These little guys put everything they had in the races they attended. All the early mornings, mud, rain, fear, heat, blood, sweat and tears they experienced mean nothing to this organization. What a shame, all because they dont want to spend a few extra dollars. These kids' parents sure spent their hard earned money to see their child have fun, succeed and be rewarded for all their hard work. Needless to say our hard earned money will never be given to the HCMA again, and I know a lot more people who feel the same way. Congratulations HCMA you lost some good racers and dedicated families.  |
|
a447
Full Member
Posts: 146
|
Post by a447 on Aug 30, 2012 20:12:49 GMT -5
I understand your frustration, rules are rules and they are set up before the season, you should've hit one more race and your son could've won a 50b championship! Don't be so rough on the HCMA, I don't think any other racing organization would budge there rules on championship points because of lack of racers in a class.
|
|
|
|
Post by moto 318 on Aug 31, 2012 8:18:10 GMT -5
With all due respect, the PROBLEM is on your part not the HCMA's. Make the commitment to yourself and your kid if a year end trophy is what you are in hopes of. I have for sure had some frustrations throughout our racing experiences but with a little time to cool down I realized I was the one who will make this the best experience possible regardless of what may come,and give my family and son the best opportunity possible to be a champion on a local and state level in a sport we have dedicated our lives to. In short look at this last year as a great start to a long and fun experience racing the HCMA, our first season we only made four races, we have not missed an HCMA race since sure the son missed two or three races this season due to injuring knee fishing, but me and the rest of the family were there.
I do feel however the HCMA could do a little better in the trophy department when it comes to 50's I think they should be like the old days and give participant trophies to all that do not finish in top three. Kevin
|
|
|
|
Post by iversmx on Aug 31, 2012 10:58:57 GMT -5
It can be hard to make it to enough races concidering the cost of travel, bikes, gear, injuries and of course the lack of time we all have. This is a sport of sacrifice and dedication. It is up to us as the parents of motocross kids to make sure that they have what they need and that they are where they need to be in order to achive the mx goals that your family has. It is hard to get a year end trophy in any class concidering all the factors that can get in the way. The HCMA is an orginization of elected officials and is there for only as good as it's members. The rules are voted on and in place to make sure that things are fair and run as smoothly as possible. The rule books were provided at the begining of the season and we all knew how many races were needed to qualify for a state trophy. Any competative orginization must have rules and they can not be bent to satisfy each one who has a problem with a situation. As I look at the year end standings I see that only 2 50 air cooled b riders had 5 races in out of the 14 that participated in the class. I'm sorry that no one will end up with a trophy in that class, but no racer met the obligation. That class DID produce future riders. As the launch pad for young motocrossers, the 50 air cooled b class provides the opportunity for family's to see if racing is the sport for them or not. So trophy or not, the experience is valuable for the future. This is not ment to be disrespectful to anyone, I hope that the upset familys in this case will realize what motocross takes and continue to bring their kids to race with the HCMA. Kids racing dirt bikes is what I love and support. I just wanted to point out that it doesn't always work out and that there is always next year. I agree with you Kevin on the trophys for all mini riders at each race. We, the members of the HCMA voted at last years meeting to change the trophy payout. This year we saw that for the mini riders that was not the best option. Good news is we can all show up at this years meeting and vote to change the payout structure for mini's. It's hard work to be a 50 parent. I hope to see your kids on the track next season doing what it take to bring home that trophy.
Brandon Ivers
|
|
|
|
Post by gman734 on Aug 31, 2012 11:00:44 GMT -5
Well said Kevin. Wait a tic! Who are you??!! And what have you done with Kevin??!!  |
|
|
|
Post by mtmxfam on Aug 31, 2012 11:58:53 GMT -5
We did understand that we needed 6 races at the beginning of the year, and then they canceled plains at the end of May in which is was a tad late in the season, we couldn't make some other races due to other previously made obligations, so it wasn't lack of commitment on our part. Every single member should have had more notice about the cancellation of Plains, it certainly makes it easier to plan. I dont consider it a failure on our part, we never have nor will ever "fail" our son in any sort of way. It is what it is, and now we know but when they tell us they can not do anything for these little guys because all the extra money has to go to the pros, you cant tell me you wouldnt be upset too. We do respect the pros and their payout and dont want to take anything away from them at all, but on the same token, most pros today started out racing 50s.
|
|
|
|
Post by 212masters22 on Aug 31, 2012 18:39:04 GMT -5
I remember a few years ago, 2010 I think, Cokedale was flooded and cancelled and then a couple weeks before the Kalispell race the peeps up there couldnt get the permit they needed and that race got cancelled, completely out of there hands, I think that year you needed to attend seven out of nine races to get an end of the year trophy. Rules are rules, once you start to bend them where do you stop. Getting an end of the year trophy is not easy, they do not give them away, if you have one display it proudly on the mantle. As for the little guys a participation trophy would be nice at every race, but to get an end of the year trophy I like the rule thats in place, it shows your good no matter what track your on, hard pack, sand, loam, big jumps, fast tracks, dirt starts, concrete starts, ect. Tell your little guy good job and practice up for next year.
|
|
|
|
Post by moto 318 on Aug 31, 2012 19:46:06 GMT -5
Sorry if you took what I said as meaning you had failed your kid that was not at all what I meant or actually stated.I should have used the word problem, instead, again sorry
|
|
|
|
Post by gman734 on Aug 31, 2012 23:19:00 GMT -5
Dont worry about it Kev. I think what you said was well thought out and not derogatory at all. Props! Honestly (and I know I'm going to "get it" for saying this), but...I think the top 5 fifty riders should get something at the end of the year regardless of how many races they attend. It just means so much to the little guys and girls and makes them want to do better next year and race even more and beg their parents to get them to more races next year. Even if it is something inexpensive and kinda cheesy (it wont be to them). However, the HCMA I believe is in a way, a member driven organization. In other words, you can vote to have the rules changed if you don't like them. And that is the rule (six races-this year), and is what was voted on in previous years. But to blame the HCMA for rules that the members voted on (or didn't change) in previous years isn't exactly fair to the HCMA. Uno? Blame the members who voted it that way or decided not to change it. Uno? I also understand the purpose of this rule and why the HCMA has it as a rule. Simply put...to get riders and thier parent to the track! As my friend Ryno says when he is upset or frustrated (LOL)..."just saying..."
|
|
|
|
Post by moto 318 on Sept 1, 2012 8:55:05 GMT -5
I too like the thought of placing the top five yearenders maybe it should be that way for all classes, it does seem a little much to place any further down for year end awards, sets the bar a little higher.
|
|
|
|
Post by darktruth on Dec 11, 2012 11:48:11 GMT -5
Don't make me have to post something. HCMA is what has made it's membership as low as it is today. Very political. I'm sure some has to do with economics. People complaining about everything. But there are no where the members like there used to be. Maybe everyone needs to step back a relook this over. A little something for the little guys is not out of order. Maybe HCMA needs to bend just a little bit and not be so tight collared and just maybe the membership would grow back to what it once was. Just sayin.
|
|
|
|
Post by moto 318 on Dec 12, 2012 9:03:52 GMT -5
Dark truth strikes again! What is your personal issue with HCMA Dude,Obviously all the people who no longer race the series are not doing so because of how it is ran, if so we would of seen larger numbers at the states new series, that is held in a higher populated section of the state.... what gives, tell us what is really bothering you,MAYBE!...just sayin'
KEVIN
|
|
|
|
Post by darktruth on Dec 13, 2012 22:20:47 GMT -5
Really I had been with HCMA for a long time and between messing with the young guys and screwing with the pro's it hasn't gotten any better. There are some officers that need to go because they have been there too long and are set in their ways and will not change. Their way or the highway. There is way too much to say to where it would turn into a knovel. But there are some of the older riders that know what I mean. Just won't stand up and say anything. Know what I mean. So when I hear that the little guys are getting the run around it stirs up some old feelings and so I just express my feelings. Which is my right as long as I don't get to rough with the language. Or slander some ones name. So there is my 2 cents worth.
|
|
|
|
Post by moto 318 on Dec 14, 2012 9:02:59 GMT -5
If I would have let every issue I have had in our 13 years of racin the HCMA series bother me I would have pulled the plug a long time ago. Instead I have chose to make the most of it and be appreciative that there is a state series for us to race and the moment my kid or myself are not having fun competing in a sport we love so much,I will walk away no regrets, and thankful the HCMA,and all our states other series,were around.
One thing about your last post makes me think you are saying that the officers are the ones who are making the rules and regulations by wich we compete,that is not the case at all, the members are the ones who vote on that each year at the state meeting the officers can't vote at the meeting.
|
|
